Well, Toy Fair is less than a month away, and suddenly a new test shot has emerged, courtesy of ACToys.net.
Now, when I saw the listing for Previews last night, I was scratching my head a bit over the whole “Jungle B.A.T.” idea. Part of me hoped maybe there was some cool new hyper-detailed PoC themed android sculpting involved, but it certainly doesn’t look that way. Just looks like a B.A.T. in a camouflaged uniform. Is that good or bad? Enh, I dunno.
Personally, my G.I. Joe universe is much more about Cobra’s human operatives than their mechanical ones, so this holds little significance for me, but I suppose there are folks out there who will be digging it. We’ll see. I do like the paint scheme of the jungle camouflage, I think it looks really cool, and would look great on a more standard military figure, I’m just not sure it fits on Cobra’s robotic soldiers.
Thanks to The Terror Drome for the heads up.
Eh, I think the B.A.T is cool and everything, but much like you I’m more interested in humans in my Cobra right now.
Also, the fact that it just seems like a repaint of what is starting to become an old figure kind of annoys me. I kinda hoped Pursuit of Cobra would stay away from this sort of thing.
I should mention that I meant I hoped PoC would stay away from repaints AFTER the Alley Viper haha.
I love it !! I prefer the human cobra agents as well so I can “create” a personality for them , but having a ton of BAT’s for cannon fodder just makes for an immpressive dio. Who doesn’t have that mental image from the classic cartoon of a handful of Joes fighting insurmountable numbers of cobra troopers? Plus,the BAT’s are the ideal Cobra grunt; they never question orders!
Con parachute trooper?
I really can’t fathom the point of camouflaging a BAT. That suggests stealth, and… well, we’re talking about a BAT, something specifically created to be as noticeable as possible. Cobra WANTS you to know that this unstoppable, unmerciful, LITERAL killing machine is inexorably marching toward you. They even installed a window to drive the point home!
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha !!!!
That is the stupidest thing I’ve ever seen.
I mean…I love the BAT (Figure and idea)…I mean I REALLY love them. The 25th BAT is pure gold to me, but this is ridiculous. Looks like a beginner custum, even if the camoflage is well done.
If this is truely from wave 5 we’re off to a VERY bad start.
I thought they said their goal for 2011 was more stuff in the vein of Snake Eyes v3 and Low Light? This would of been sub-par even in the 25th line.
Ick!
Honestly, I’d rather them just re-release the 25th B.A.T than get a camo B.A.T. I was never able to get a 25th B.A.T, and I’d rather have the original to this…thing.
i like it. i think i’ll like it even more when i see them on card or in a group of 5 or more.
I’ll wait to see how its equipped before making judgment. If they give its modular arms a POC makeover, it could be cool.
Any idea if this is actually accurate? Or just someones custom pic up there? What’s going on over at HISStank right now has me thinking it’s someones custom, because just by having some people saying they don’t like it, there are some folks totally losing it, swearing and calling everyone an a$$hole. They even tagged the thread with HISStank = A$$holes. That sounds to me like someone is taking the negative reaction VERY personally. Which is kind of odd if it’s just a Hasbro toy.
That, or those HISStank folks are very hotheaded. lol.
I think this is from Joecon 2011. They’d at least retool it if it was for PoC. Even Alley Viper was a retool.
It’s pretty crappy. It looks like a gi joe version of the B.a.t.
robot wearing clothes is stupid to begin with…never understood it.
@hawkwinter…….
you sure hit the nail on the head about HissTank. its nigh impossible to get thru 2 pages of any thread without things going south.
I am not immediately interested in this figure. I’d vote the 25th BAT into the Top 10 of the Anniversary line but I am not sure this design works. On the other hand, he might have some nice buzz-saw, machete, or other jungle-specific attachments.
maybe its camouflage for the human troopers or jungle vipers that have the bats for support. i could buy that for an explanation. i definately like it, it will fit in well in a jungle scene i’m building.
@hunter as for them re-releasing the regular 25th bats, that is highly doubtful that will ever happen. i snagged a ton from family dollar for $3 a piece, and left a ton in the store. out of the 20 some family dollars i went to when they got resolute troopers, every one of them had bats.
Maybe it something like when Colonel Calvin in the America’s Elite comic had a some left-over BATs. Maybe like dragongravy said, they’re there to support the Jungle Vipers.
maybe it’s not a Cobra BAT… maybe a TIGER FORCE BAT!!!
Camouflage makes sense if the BATs are scattered around a Terrordrome as sentries, hidden in the jungle foliage.
They could be programmed to activate on sensing an intruder, or on a signal–and given the density of the jungle, could be hard to see—-until its too late.
“Clothing” on the BATS–an oldie…….but easy explanation: it’s not cloth, it’s Kevlar.
Why outfit a humanoid robot with heavy hard-shell armour to protect its operating parts, when a pliable material like Kevlar would do the job.
It weighs less, stops rounds just as well, and allow for more body weight to be devoted to weapons or upgraded electronics.
Protected as such, the BATs could absorb fire from standard infantry weapons-fire, meaning that heavier weapons would be needed to take the BATs out.
Such weapons then tend to be fewer on the battlefield, correspondingly have fewer shots to spare, and so BATs have something of a tactical advantage as a result.
Now that all said, I find the Jungle BAT something of a let-down at this point. If its the same ol’/same ol’ then it’ll be a pass for me.
Even if the idea makes sense, I would prefer seeing something new, rather than a repaint. Gimme new parts that single this figure out for its specialty, or gimme something completely new in appearance/design to justify its existence.
A straight repaint will not be enough, if that is all this is.
Seeing this makes me wonder if this wave supposedly coming up in Previews is a “filler” wave thrown together to buy some time while Hasbro figures out exactly what the heck they’re doing next with the line. I know we love the POC stuff, but nothing I’ve read gives me reason to believe that it’s been successful enough for Hasbro to not ditch it in favor of yet another revamp. (Could also explain why we’ve heard nothing official about what’s coming after the most recently released assortment.)
“I know we love the POC stuff, but nothing I’ve read gives me reason to believe that it’s been successful enough for Hasbro to not ditch it in favor of yet another revamp.”
Well, besides the fact that they’ve said repeatedly that they will continue the PoC line in 2011 in many of the Q&As they do with the Joe websites. Those Q&A’s would lose all meaning if they start outright lieing to us. They also said that the Renegades inspired figures will be part of the PoC line, as opposed to being a new line.
In no way is this the parachute figure. I’m placing my money on Relampago, or Gathilo. It’s a no-brainer. Both are airborne troopers. Both are Python Patrol. Both are Brazilian figures. Both utilize parts from previously released figures. As for the BAT. I like it. Sure, it’s kinda a cheap ‘filler’ figure. But it’s well done IMO.
Although…ask my opinion again about this figure when it’s choking up the aisles like the Jungle Viper. Lol.
I just can’t see this being the final paint app.
Two things that stand out as this not being final
1. The head is a completely different green than any other part of the BAT
2. The knee caps aren’t camoflaged or painted. They look like they still are waiting for paint.
I think this is some sort of demo version. So who knows what the final version ends up looking like
@ Hawkwinter – I was thinking the same thing. Its also not the more complex, modern camo patters used by the rest of POC and ROC, more of an easily painted tiger pattern. possibly a placeholder for something better? Though maybe Cobra acknowledges the futility of the pattern once they’re active and uses surplus?
I would have been a lot more excited to see the re-tooled 25th COBRA Viper in that camouflage pattern. If they’re going to pop out a B.A.T. like this, there needs to be a delivery vehicle or a hitch/backpack that snaps them into the back end of the new H.I.S.S. tanks.
That list does not sound like anything I’d expect to see either as a new assortment. Sounds like a possible assortment of some retailer exclusives repainted for them alone, like the Walmart sets from waaaaaay back durning SpyTroops and Valor vs Venom (remember those Urban patterned COBRAs?).
I would say that’s a conservative looking B.A.T. for 2011 and compared to many numerous takes on the B.A.T. in the last few years.
I like ARROW’s kevlar explanation above, something I would not have imagined. Cool. My B.A.T.s have this now. (instant upgrade 🙂 )
I thought of clothing on a B.A.T. as a way to maintain an element of surprise on encounters previously. A sort of psychological demoralizer when the thing your shooting keeps coming and isn’t human?
Either way, I missed the 25th B.A.T. and wouldn’t mind adding some if it does show up on the pegs. I hope some neat new things are added to it.
“Well, besides the fact that they’ve said repeatedly that they will continue the PoC line in 2011 in many of the Q&As they do with the Joe websites. Those Q&A’s would lose all meaning if they start outright lieing to us. They also said that the Renegades inspired figures will be part of the PoC line, as opposed to being a new line.”
All true, but that was, if I remember correctly, before the Bravo vehicles started showing up at Ross’s and so on. I guess after the after the shift mid stream last time around, I’m a little gunshy. The Joe sections in stores have been looking a little anemic this past year.
Personally i like the idea and i really just want more of those 25th style bats. I’m gonna have to check out a family dollar or two just to see if they have any.
Pssht!
Optimists….
I just picked up another 25th B.A.T. for $2 at Marshalls yesterday, Jason. If you have those or T.J. Maxx stores in your area, check them for post-holiday clearance leftovers, too.
@Count Blacktron
More like Optimists Past their Prime. *snap*
Don’t be a Negatron!
If this is the the actual B.A.T. released,I will be Devastatored
We wants it my precious….