I know I bitched about Hasbro’s non-committal answers yesterday, and to a point, that holds true. It can be frustrating when we, as fans, reach out, simply for some information…and don’t get a whole lot in return. I wasn’t asking for trade secrets, I wasn’t trying to be a dick, I was just trying to come up with some interesting, different questions, and get some insight, yet still received nothing really in the replies. A bit disappointing, is all.
But…apparently Hasbro wasn’t so non-committal with everyone. There’s actually some information that we gleaned from this round, which was cool to see.
JoeCanuck.com – “Look out for a S.A.W. Viper Crazy Legs, and plenty of others in 2010.” Very interesting…cool to hear the name SAW Viper, that’s for sure. I can only imagine what he’ll look like in a Pursuit of Cobra theme. Crazy Legs seems to be a somewhat odd choice, but I’m open for anything.
JoeBattleLines – “Good news – we plan to release Alpine in a 2010 multipack in a classic look.” I like hearing this, too, even though I was one of those folks who found the Best of the 80’s multipack when it was first released. I am a bit curious about “classic look”, though. Do they mean a direct homage to his vintage appearence, or with some liberties? Does this mean some more classic-themed multipacks are in the wings? Guess we’ll wait and see.
Kastors Korner – “We are finally releasing some of the characters that collectors have been clamoring for (Roadblock, Scarlett, Destro and Baroness among others)… and have some newly tooled figures based on the Resolute series that are sure to please…“. Yeah, this one was a no-brainer in my mind. Everyone realizes the tooled up figures are getting in these boxed sets, the real question is who the newly tooled figures are going to be. I’m still laying my cash down on Stalker, Flint, and Zartan as being key members of these 7-packs. Who wants to take my bet?
JediDefender – “Alley Viper is planned to be released as a single carded figure with updated gear and deco – watch out for him in the Pursuit of Cobra line!” Hot damn! Love the Alley-Viper, and can’t wait to see what they do to him to make him gel with the Pursuit of COBRA. I’m sensing some bad ass new gear and paint apps. Very cool…gotta be a “City Strike” guy.
HissTank – “The Pursuit of Cobra product will hit shelves in the back half 2010.” Ummm… wha–? The back half? My understanding from the Con was that these would start hitting in January and be a full blown year long theme. Are they really being pushed back to the second part of 2010? If so, that’s a bit of a bummer from a stagnation stand point. Sure, there’s plenty of product on the horizon like the next run of Target Exclusives, Alpha vehicles wave 3, Bravo vehicles wave 3, etc… but most of that stuff contains heavy doses of repaints, retools, and rehashes. I gotsta get my hands on some NEW stuff, man. This is a bit of a bummer…hopefully we can get some elaboration or clarification on this.
As usual, somewhat of a mixed bag. There were some answers scattered about, but still a lot of marketing talk. I have noticed a trend of questions getting a bit “snippier” as time goes on. It would appear the fandom is tiring a bit of the non-answers, but we should get used to it. It’s nice to at least see some information flowing out there, even if you have to dig through a lot of jargon to get it.
I can’t wait for the S.A.W.-Viper. While I agree that Crazy Legs seems like an odd choice, it’s not that hard to see where they got the idea. The “Aqua-Viper” that came with the Mantis Sub bears a striking resemblance to CL. Give him a different helmet and some parachute gear and you got a very passable CL.
We also know for sure that a reso Maj.Bludd (dead or alive) won’t make it into the reso packs…unfortunately.
http://www.thefwoosh.com/2009/11/ask-hasbro-gi-joe-11179
“3. Was there ever a design for Resolute Major Bludd’s costume? We’ve seen turn around animation models for lots of Resolute characters – was one done for the Major? It would be awesome to get a Resolute Major Bludd that’s not dead.
He was designed but we have no plans for his release at present.”
Were also getting a single pack alley viper.
JediDefender.
http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=2481.msg453719#msg453719
“2) The 25th styled figures with ROC-ish Paint jobs are some of JD.com owner Paul’s favorites in the line (Cobra Paratrooper in Black is superb),is this something we can expect to see more of in the POC line and if so,is there anything that would determine who gets the crossover treatment?
Alley Viper is planned to be released as a single carded figure with updated gear and deco – watch out for him in the Pursuit of Cobra line!”
Whooot!!!
$20 says Alpine will be a white female.
“$20 says Alpine will be a white female”
I’m going to say a Latino in a wheelchair whose specialty is battlefield cooking.
JediDefender.
http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=2481.msg453719#msg453719
“2) The 25th styled figures with ROC-ish Paint jobs are some of JD.com owner Paul’s favorites in the line (Cobra Paratrooper in Black is superb),is this something we can expect to see more of in the POC line and if so,is there anything that would determine who gets the crossover treatment?
Alley Viper is planned to be released as a single carded figure with updated gear and deco – watch out for him in the Pursuit of Cobra line!”
So, he’ll be the same figure with a giant missile launching accessory?
YES, single packed Alley Viper! I wonder if they’ll give us a nod to the Battle Corps one and throw some yellow in there? Even if they don’t, I’m loving the color choices for everything so far, so it doesn’t matter.
Also happy to see that we’ll be getting a S.A.W.! That’s gona look AWESOME in the new style! I hope they still use the same helmet from the DTC one, though. If it’s one thing I love about S.A.W. Vipers, it’s that big visored helmet.
So, everyone’s excited about the new figures? even though thet’re all classic characters, right? S.A.W. viper, Alpine, Alley viper. see? the new versions of classic characters are the best reason to be excited about! not those horrible RoC characters; i don’t see anyone excited for a general hawk in a wheel chair or a kid snake eyes, or another useless repaint of a neo-viper.
I want o know what the hell the deal is with the back half of 20010 for POC.
I’d like to know about the back half of 2010 for POC comments that were made
“i don’t see anyone excited for a general hawk in a wheel chair or a kid snake eyes”
Personally, I’d LOVE a two pack of kid Snake Eyes and Storm-Shadow.
And ‘General Hawk in a wheelchair’ is something that’s been around for YEARS now, and just hasn’t gotten a figure yet. I take it this means you also hated DDP’s comics, because they came up with it about 5 years ago.
OY! Neon Viper, please, don’t take some words and roll them any way you want! Yeah, I love Alley Vipers, yeah, I love S.A.W. Vipers….but did you see WHY I was excited? They are gona make them DIFFERENT than they were before! I wasn’t expecting a battle corps color scheme, just a homage, and if they don’t: AWESOME. I’m looking for new stuff, or twists on old favorites. I’m really hoping the S.A.W. Viper will have the old helmet, but I hope the rest of him is new!
And to top that all off: I AM looking forward to all the RoC stuff! The 2010 stuff is freakin’ genius so far, as I’ve been wanting that kinda stuff since I was a kid (like the motorcycle armor) and I am so glad to see tons of accessories come back again, like the old days. The biggest thing, though, is that everything is different, NOT THE SAME. That’s what we are excited about Neon, buddy, we want some change!
Ok, so we’ll just have to wait and see what’s up with those; but in the meantime, let me explain what i meant: we all know by now that the 25th anniversary took the old designs and gave ’em an injection of modern warfare, case in point: Airborne, who has a lot of new commando gear, but retains the same colors of the vintage style, the same happened with the alley-viper, it’s the same ol’ look but with an updated gear, (machine gun, baton, etc.) and those are awesome figures, ’cause they mantain the old looks, but look actual. Now, for the SAW viper, crazylegs and company, i bet they’ll do the same, you’ll see. And if that’s not the case, well, there’s another toys i won’t buy.
id buy a Hawk in wheelchair in a heartbeat. i was kinda disappointed that hes not permanently in the wheelchair in the movie.
I hear you Neon Viper, and I understand YOUR wants, but you seem to think that we all want the same, because we’re excited about the old figure names. I liked the 25th figures as much as you, but the old color schemes with an “actual” look doesn’t excite me as much as brand new color schemes. I’m excited for the Alley Viper and S.A.W because I assume they’ll do something new. I mean, the Alley Viper already has a mold, but I’m expecting to see some cool new colors. The S.A.W., however, I’m REALLY hoping we see the DTC helmet on a new design or a good bunch of parts that are already out. I wana see what they can do with the S.A.W. Viper, because it’s a cool concept that always looked….well..ugly. I never liked the original, but the idea is very cool!
So, I understand you’re not interested in anything but updates, but most of us (not all, I know) are interested to see more than just updated originals, but updates to everything in general, along with those awesome new figures they are bringing out in 2010. The only thing I’ll bash in regards to the new stuff is the standard Duke, Ripcord, SS, SE, and everyone coming back so often, and the fairly bland filecards we’ve been getting. Everything else, to me, is gold.
That whole “back half of 2010” comment is discouraging, although I still feel if they hadn’t made so many variations of characters so soon this wouldn’t be as big of an issue. They had potential, including characters like Flash and Shipwreck in movie designs was a great way to give the line legs, but now we’re getting multiple versions of Ripcord, who isn’t an iconic character like Snake Eyes or Duke, and also is a very polarizing aspect of RoC. Guys like Night Adder are a step in the right direction, but I can freely admit to being disappointed by the number of character variations seen at Joecon compared to the lack of new characters.
The upcoming Desert Zartan is how you do a character variation. Jungle fatigues Ripcord, not so much.
About the “back half of 2010” comment, my take is that they are going to release the new toys under the Rise of Cobra banner and will not change until the “back half of 2010″… just look at the new boxed Water Mocassin for example, its under the Rise of Cobra banner with an added Pursuit of Cobra subtitle…
I wish we could get something along the lines of a “classic”/”ROTC” multi-packs thing going ala the Star Wars Legacy three-packs. That way, we could get old characters AND new characters, such as both classic and update Alley Vipers, Dial Tone and Girl Dial Tone, White and Black Ripcord, Black hood Cobra Commander (the only variant we DIDN’T get in the 25th Anniversary line) and his movie counterpart, etc.
Plus, they could add some fun factoids of sorts to explain the differences as far as shared universe stuff goes: the female Dial Tone took over the “Dial Tone” name/position after the male Dial Tone had his face erased by Madame Veil’s youth restoration machine, White Ripcord was Black Ripcord’s mentor and that he took the codename to honor him after his death, how the original Alley Viper design got changed because Cobra Commander hated the day-glow colors of the uniform, and how the Black Hooded Costume is something Cobra Commander only wears for special events.
“Personally, I’d LOVE a two pack of kid Snake Eyes and Storm-Shadow.
And ‘General Hawk in a wheelchair’ is something that’s been around for YEARS now, and just hasn’t gotten a figure yet. I take it this means you also hated DDP’s comics, because they came up with it about 5 years ago.”
Hell, throw in the Hard Master and make it an Arashikage three pack. As for General Hawk in a wheelchair, number one–it’s not like he’s confined to it. And two, he’s in his dress uniform which is a nice variation. Since we’re talking multi-packs here, throw in a Cover Girl with her dress uniform as seen in the beginning of the movie and you’ve got a nice little multi-pack: Hawk, Cover Girl, and the wheelchair.
I’d much rather prefer the desert camo Hawk featured in the final battle, than the Professor X variety.
Not wanting to be pessimistic. Hope I am wrong. But I have this feeling that Alpine is not going to be the Alpine we are thinking or some are hoping for.
Meaning, he’s not going to be the same one from the B.O. 80’s set. I think the figure will still have all of the same parts of course, but I am thinking it’s going to be based on an arctic set. We already have a desert themed set. And we know Alpine is going to be part of a “battlepack.”
If you’re looking for an Alpine and there’s a Marshall’s nearby, you may want to keep stopping buy there because they are showing up pretty good there now and if you hold out until next year, you might be disappointed.
I already have one, and wouldn’t mind getting one with an “arctic assault” look to him, but thought I’d throw that out there for those looking for one and wanting one identical to what was already made.